A couple of months ago Matt Mattson graciously invited me on his podcast, Between, and the episode was released yesterday!
We covered a lot of ground in a short conversation, and had fun doing it.
We talked about Pope Francis’s emphasis on belonging first, before right belief and right behavior, and how the pope’s teaching is an antidote to fundamentalist Catholicism.
I got to read one of my favorite passage from Fratelli Tutti.
And we talked about the tension of being a part of Church that is both holy and so profoundly harmful.
I loved the conversation! You can check it out here:
And you can learn more about Between here:
https://between.church/between